Republicans in Maine have NEVER tried to keep anyone off the ballot. Look it up. This is an unDemocratic thing. Well, and a Soviet thing. And, I suppose, a Cuban thing. And these days a Venezuelan thing. And a Zimbabwean thing.
Oh, and BTW, that argument is a logical fallacy anyway. It's irrelevant what someone else "would" do in an imaginary hypothetical situation that you just made up in your head. What's relevant is what's happening in, you know, reality. If hypothetical situations are part of arguments now, then you can never whine about the 2000 Florida election, since I can say that in my head, the unDemocratic Party would do the same thing in the imaginary hypothetical that I just made up. Hypothetical situations are not an excuse for corruption.
It's not about hiding anything. The SoS's office made their decision, and the court is unlikely to change it - especially since the judge the unDems bought off recused himself. What is the unDemocratic Party so afraid of? And since when can you just make stuff up?
Since when is the unDemocratic Party against choice? Do you all agree with Mike Michaud now? Is limiting choice going to be part of the party platform? Is that the new direction of the unDemocratic Party?
....it's bad politics, using the courts to keep someone off the ballot. If they'd just ignored him he'd have had relatively little impact. 3% at most, probably more like 1% - 2%. Now, with all the attention he's getting, their actions may have increased his appeal.
Plus, why is Tom Allen so worried about liberals not supporting him when he's MoveOn.org's favorite candidate? (I'm judging that by money donated, not ideology)
The unDems are also now in the awkward position of challenging the ruling of their party's Secretary of State to the law court. Since the law court almost never overturns the SoS, and since it's standard Maine caselaw to lean in favor of ballots and signatures being valid, they'll probably lose. Then they'll have given Hoffman a bunch of free PR for no benefit.
Good strategy there, guys. Way to go. A bunch of tactical geniuses, the unDems are.
Actually Republicans are one of the reasons we NEED to have laws allowing challenges to illegal petitioning. Or is this another one of those times it's OK if YOUR GUYS break laws, but otherwise you're all Law & order?
July 12, 2007 A two-term Republican state representative was charged with improperly using his authority as a notary to administer oaths in connection with a referendum drive
April 1, 2000: BDN - It was ruled that a Republican legislative candidate's nominating petition was invalid and the matter was forwarded to the attorney general for an investigation into possible election fraud.
If any candidate has failed to legally collect all of the signatures required to appear on the ballot then it is clear cut: they should be stopped by the legal authorities who not be on the ballot. Simple, straight forward - obey the law if you want to play the game. Otherwise sit it out.
"It's unfortunate that a celebration of the Democratic Party's presidential nominee was marked by this situation. We take such threatening messages very seriously and I'm glad that a suspect has been arrested."
-- Gov. John Baldacci on the arrest of a Brunswick man who sent a threatening email to Baldacci and at least one delegate from the Maine Democratic Party.
unDemocratic Party
Their new name.
Since when
is insisting that candidates actually follow the law "undemocratic"?
What a crock. If the courts rule that the law wasn't followed the signatures are not valid. If they rule otherwise then they are.
Why don't people want the courts to actually determine if laws were broken or followed? Seems peculiar to me. Exactly what do you want to hide?
... especially since the Republicans would do the exact same thing if he circumstances were reversed.
Wrong again
Republicans in Maine have NEVER tried to keep anyone off the ballot. Look it up. This is an unDemocratic thing. Well, and a Soviet thing. And, I suppose, a Cuban thing. And these days a Venezuelan thing. And a Zimbabwean thing.
Oh, and BTW, that argument is a logical fallacy anyway. It's irrelevant what someone else "would" do in an imaginary hypothetical situation that you just made up in your head. What's relevant is what's happening in, you know, reality. If hypothetical situations are part of arguments now, then you can never whine about the 2000 Florida election, since I can say that in my head, the unDemocratic Party would do the same thing in the imaginary hypothetical that I just made up. Hypothetical situations are not an excuse for corruption.
It's not about hiding anything. The SoS's office made their decision, and the court is unlikely to change it - especially since the judge the unDems bought off recused himself. What is the unDemocratic Party so afraid of? And since when can you just make stuff up?
Since when is the unDemocratic Party against choice? Do you all agree with Mike Michaud now? Is limiting choice going to be part of the party platform? Is that the new direction of the unDemocratic Party?
How does it feel to be against democracy?
And, separately....
....it's bad politics, using the courts to keep someone off the ballot. If they'd just ignored him he'd have had relatively little impact. 3% at most, probably more like 1% - 2%. Now, with all the attention he's getting, their actions may have increased his appeal.
Plus, why is Tom Allen so worried about liberals not supporting him when he's MoveOn.org's favorite candidate? (I'm judging that by money donated, not ideology)
The unDems are also now in the awkward position of challenging the ruling of their party's Secretary of State to the law court. Since the law court almost never overturns the SoS, and since it's standard Maine caselaw to lean in favor of ballots and signatures being valid, they'll probably lose. Then they'll have given Hoffman a bunch of free PR for no benefit.
Good strategy there, guys. Way to go. A bunch of tactical geniuses, the unDems are.
Actually Republicans are one
Actually Republicans are one of the reasons we NEED to have laws allowing challenges to illegal petitioning. Or is this another one of those times it's OK if YOUR GUYS break laws, but otherwise you're all Law & order?
July 12, 2007 A two-term Republican state representative was charged with improperly using his authority as a notary to administer oaths in connection with a referendum drive
http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=120231&ac=PHnws
April 1, 2000: BDN - It was ruled that a Republican legislative candidate's nominating petition was invalid and the matter was forwarded to the attorney general for an investigation into possible election fraud.
If any candidate has failed to legally collect all of the signatures required to appear on the ballot then it is clear cut: they should be stopped by the legal authorities who not be on the ballot. Simple, straight forward - obey the law if you want to play the game. Otherwise sit it out.
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